| All my life I've been told: There is one God, | | | | Testament supported the trinity doctrine at all. |
| manifested in three separate, distinct persons. Each is | | | | He knew the Hebrew and was honest enough not to |
| co-equal, co-eternal and neither is greater or lesser | | | | misinterpret 'Elohim' to try to justify his belief. John |
| than the other. Their glory is co-equal. They never | | | | Calvin was the principal accuser and chief prosecutor |
| argue and they are always in agreement with each | | | | in the trial even though the court did the sentencing. |
| other. Views differ as the Father sending the Spirit | | | | Severtus also knew the Hebrew did NOT support |
| through the Son or the Father and the Son both | | | | the trinity and his conviction cost him his earthly life. |
| send the Spirit. Each person has their own divine | | | | Some try to imply 'Elohim' denotes the trinity. (Gen. |
| function in agreement with the others. | | | | 1:26) If this is true, why are Chemosh (Jud. 11:24), |
| Well, here are some important things to consider. | | | | Baal-berith (Jud. 8:33), Dagon (Jud. 16:23), Baal-zebub |
| The terms "trinity" and "triune" are not found in the | | | | (2 Ki. 1:2, 3), Nisroch (2 Ki. 19:37) and Ashtoreth (1 Ki. |
| Bible. There is not even a suggestion that this | | | | 11:5) all called elohim? Are these pagan gods "three |
| doctrine is Biblical. | | | | persons yet one god" also, just because of the use |
| Hundreds of years after Yeshua, Rome attached | | | | of the Hebrew word "elohim"? |
| Bible names to this pagan doctrine, thus warping the | | | | And God said, "let us make man in our image". (Gen. |
| identity of the God Christians believe in. | | | | 1:26) If God was talking, wouldn't whoever He was |
| Let us explore the doctrine of the trinity in the light | | | | speaking to (or whoever was listening), certainly NOT |
| of Scripture and in the historical aspect. Most | | | | be God? What does the very next verse say? And |
| Encyclopedias and some churches will have a version | | | | He made man in His own image. (Gen. 1:27) |
| of the trinity doctrine you can examine. | | | | Why is God called "the Father" when it was the Holy |
| Some imply that the word "trinity" is not found in | | | | Spirit that did the conceiving in Mary? (Matt. 1:18, 20) |
| Scripture due to the fact the Hebrew language does | | | | Doesn't this make the Holy Spirit the Father? But |
| not have a word for "trinity". | | | | wait, Yeshua said HE was the Father. (John 14:8) Are |
| First, isn't that a signal in itself? Do you mean to tell | | | | all three of them the Father? Does "three fathers" |
| me, after several thousand years of Israel and the | | | | even sound Biblical? |
| Lord God being together, the Catholics (now | | | | God is our only Savior. (Is. 43:3, 10, 11) (Is. 45:21, 22) |
| Protestants too) can come along and re-define the | | | | (Hos. 13:4) Now compare how (Titus 1:3, 4) and |
| identity of the Jewish God? How can we re-write | | | | (Titus 2:10) refer to our Savior. Obviously the |
| God's identity "better than" the Jewish language and | | | | meaning is interchangeable. Yeshua is called "our great |
| Scripture already have? Then accuse the Jewish | | | | God and Savior"! (Titus 2:13) |
| religion for being wrong! | | | | We all know that God is Spirit. (John 4:24) The Holy |
| Second, the Hebrew language does have the | | | | Spirit is obviously Spirit. Does this mean there are |
| terminology to express the number "three" and the | | | | two Spirit persons within the God of Abraham? Do |
| word "persons" if (and only if) it did describe their | | | | you have a verse for that? |
| God. It doesn't! | | | | And what about the verses that speaks of the |
| Third, where is God everreferred to as "persons" in | | | | "Spirit of Christ"? (Rom. 8:9) (Phil. 1:19) (1 Pet. 1:11) Did |
| the Bible? | | | | you notice that the terms "Spirit of God" and "Spirit |
| Where in the Bible does it ever refer to God as | | | | of Christ" are used interchangeably in one sentence? |
| "they"? The Bible does not say anywhere nor even | | | | (Rom. 8:9) Does this make three Spirit persons |
| imply that God is three persons yet one God. | | | | making up the Lord God of Israel? I thought there |
| Throughout history why have Babylon, Egypt, Rome, | | | | was just one spirit. (Ephesians 4:4) |
| Catholics and now Protestants been the main | | | | We all know that "God was IN Messiah, reconciling |
| promoters of the doctrine of the trinity and not | | | | the world unto Himself". (2 Cor. 5:19) God was also IN |
| Israel? This is because the Jewish Religion has one | | | | the burning bush (Ex. 3:2-4) and IN the pillar of a |
| God period! Who do you think Messiah was? | | | | cloud (Ex. 13:21) and IN the pillar of fire (Ex. 13:21). Do |
| God did not have a kid! That isn't what Messiah | | | | these added manifestations make Him six persons |
| means. The Pharisees weren't mad because He said | | | | yet one God in hex-unity? |
| He was the son of God, they knew we are all sons | | | | There is widespread error that all three members of |
| of God. They wanted to kill Him because He claimed | | | | the trinity were present at Yeshua's baptism. Does |
| to be (and was) the Lord God of Israel, the One | | | | this mean that two persons of the trinity (Yeshua, |
| who led Moses and the Israelites. | | | | and the Holy Spirit descending) were on the earth |
| We must remember that in the Jewish faith, (whose | | | | while God the Father stayed in the heavens? |
| God we worship) the terms Messiah, Christ, | | | | But, we know that God was in Messiah reconciling |
| Anointed, Son of God, Son of Man and Emmanuel | | | | the world unto Himself. (2 Cor. 5:19) Does this mean |
| (God with us) only meant one thing. God had visited | | | | that all three trinity persons were in Yeshua while He |
| and redeemed His people, not that He split into three | | | | was on earth? Is our God so limited that while as |
| persons in order to do so. | | | | Messiah, He could not make a voice come out of |
| This is a great point from a prophecy about Messiah. | | | | heaven? (Nothing was seen, only heard.) At the |
| Who does the prophet Micah say will be born in | | | | same time He caused a visible something to flutter |
| Bethlehem? (Micah 5:2) The Ruler in Israel to be born | | | | down imitating a dove's flight. (John 1:32-34) Can God |
| in Bethlehem (Messiah) whose goings forth are from | | | | accomplish this without having to be split up into |
| "old" (before time, Hebrew gedem), from age | | | | three persons in order to explain it? |
| "everlasting." (indefinite time, Hebrew olam) Yeshua | | | | Wasn't this just a vision for John to confirm he was |
| the Messiah is none other than the Lord God of | | | | baptizing who he was sent to prepare the way for? |
| Israel. | | | | (John 1:32) It does not say that any onlookers saw it |
| Did you notice Zacharias is calling the baby Yeshua | | | | also. |
| the "Lord God of Israel." (Luke 1: 67, 68) Messiah the | | | | Historically there is no evidence of the trinity doctrine |
| Lord would arrive before he died and he knew it. | | | | previous to Babylon (2200-1500 BC). It is also found |
| It was never question in Scripture if Yeshua was the | | | | in the Egyptian worship system (1500-1000 BC). But |
| second member of the trinity. The decision to be | | | | the trinity was never a part of the Jewish or |
| made was if He was Yahweh God (Father) | | | | Christian worship until Rome attached Bible names to |
| performing the prophesied visit of Messiah. (Isaiah | | | | pagan doctrines at the council of Nicea in 325 A.D. |
| 9:6) | | | | This is the point in time when Christianity was |
| Even His name (Yeshua) means (Yahweh Savior, or | | | | paganized or paganism was Christianized, whichever is |
| God saves). Does this shed some light on "I come in | | | | more accurate. When the reformers left the Roman |
| my Father's name"? (John 5:43) What was the | | | | Church, the trinity doctrine was carried along to the |
| Father's name He came in? Yeshua! | | | | Protestant churches without serious examination. |
| Do you remember the verse you read every Dec. | | | | Some have said that the Babylonians and Egyptians |
| 25th? (Isaiah 9:6) "For unto us a child is born, a son is | | | | had the trinity doctrine because they "must have" |
| given...His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, | | | | stolen it from the Jews. The trinity mystery doctrine |
| The Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." | | | | had been in use in Babylon for many years before |
| The Messiah is called the Father. Phillip asked to see | | | | someone began writing the first Scriptures. |
| the Father. Yeshua responded, "he that hath seen | | | | And more importantly, the Jews are well known for |
| me has seen the Father". (John 14:9) | | | | keeping their One God monotheism pure. Does it |
| What about the word "Godhead" in the Bible? There | | | | seem likely the pagans derived the trinity doctrine for |
| are only three places this word is used. The actual | | | | their gods from the Jews, who believe and teach a |
| meanings (which are very singular) can be found in | | | | totally opposite view? |
| your concordance. "That which is divine" in (Acts | | | | Because of the words Father, Son and Holy Spirit, |
| 17:29) "Divinity" in (Rom. 1:20) "Diety" in (Col. 2:9) | | | | the trinity and baptism doctrines overlap a little. Here |
| Does the Bible say we have to accept the trinity | | | | are a few references: |
| doctrine without question? (Acts 17:11) (Titus 1:9) | | | | Johnson's New Universal Encyclopedia Vol. 2, Part 1, |
| Why do the "explanations" of the trinity leave us | | | | page 586: The monotheism of the Old and New |
| even more confused? Explanations such as: the three | | | | Testaments is unquestionable. |
| of them share equal power and equal glory, they | | | | Johnson's New Universal Encyclopedia Vol. 10, page 3: |
| never argue with each other or they are always | | | | The word trinity is not found in the Scriptures and is |
| agreement with each other. When we see the three | | | | said to have been first used by Theophilus, Bishop of |
| of them in heaven or the three of them relate to | | | | Antioch, in the second century. |
| each other intimately are other blasphemous | | | | Catholic Encyclopedia Vol. 15, page 47: In the |
| statements. The Bible NEVER uses "they" to describe | | | | Scriptures there is NO single term by which the three |
| God. | | | | divine persons are denoted together. (The Catholics |
| If someone's explanation of the trinity gets to be | | | | admit it is NOT in the Bible) |
| such theological, hermeneutical, philosophical, | | | | Word Book Encyclopedia Vol. 16, page 7270: But the |
| barf-illogical gobbledeegook that you cannot | | | | doctrine of the three in one is considered to be a |
| understand it, BEWARE! | | | | mystery for which there is NOT adequate |
| The trinity doctrine is impossible to explain. As soon | | | | explanation. |
| as you use part of a verse to try to prove it, there | | | | Dictionary of the Bible by Scriptures, Vol. 1, page 241: |
| are other verses that completely disprove the point | | | | (on baptism) The original form of words was "into |
| you just made! Try it sometime, but remember | | | | the name of Jesus Christ or Lord Jesus". Baptism into |
| every place you read "God", it has to mean three | | | | the trinity was a latter development. |
| persons. | | | | New International Encyclopedia Vol. 22, page 476: |
| You do not have to go to eight years of seminary | | | | The trinity doctrine is NOT found in its fully |
| to understand the Bible. How did the disciples explain | | | | developed form in the Scriptures. Modern theology |
| the Gospel so that 3,000 people could understand | | | | does NOT seek to find it in the Old Testament. |
| enough to make a conversion decision in one day? | | | | Now God has revealed the second Covenant of |
| (Acts 2:41) | | | | Grace as He (still God as Messiah) wishes to be |
| In the city there is a Trinity Church. I was bewildered | | | | known. The God of the Old Testament is still the |
| by the tracts they offered in the lobby totally | | | | SAME God of the New Testament. How did Yeshua |
| disproving the trinity doctrine. They said openly that | | | | respond to the devil's tempting? (Luke 4:12) (Matt. |
| they did not believe the trinity doctrine was true. I | | | | 4:7) You shall not tempt the Lord your God. Who |
| asked why they would want their church named for | | | | was the devil tempting? Yeshua, the Lord your God! |
| something they do not believe in. I never did get an | | | | Look at the prophecy foretelling John the Baptist |
| answer. | | | | announcing the arrival of Messiah. (Isaiah 40:3) Pay |
| True story: The first time I questioned the trinity I | | | | particular attention to the terminology used for |
| was five years old. The phrase "Blessed trinity" was | | | | WHOM John was announcing. All three of these |
| in my favorite hymn at the time, so I asked what it | | | | verses refer to Yeshua the Messiah being the Lord |
| was. I was told it was so complex I could never fully | | | | God of Israel. (John 1:23) (Luke 3:4) |
| understand it, I just had to accept and believe it! | | | | How many verses does it take to disprove the false |
| I have a very learned Catholic neighbor who is now in | | | | doctrine of the trinity in your mind? We are not |
| his late 80's. He openly admits the doctrine of the | | | | grasping at straws here. If we can put a man on the |
| trinity isn't Biblical. I find that fact quite interesting, but | | | | moon and cheese in a can, why can't we understand |
| I am puzzled why he would remain where he knows | | | | the Bible without adding the trinity doctrine to explain |
| more about the Bible than the Institution itself | | | | it? |
| teaches. They would officially disown "him" for that. | | | | There can only be One Mighty God who is our |
| Scripture never compares God to an egg | | | | Everlasting Father, specifically spoken in the prophecy |
| (yolk-white-shell) OR to water (ice-liquid-steam). | | | | of Messiah coming. (Isaiah 9:6) |
| These examples of the trinity are so lame. Anyway, | | | | What if the Lord wants to know if you worshipped |
| an egg has two membranes and an umbilicus too, | | | | God's (child) Son, the second member of the trinity |
| that's six parts! | | | | named Jesus Christ from Rome? OR did you worship |
| When we worship God, do the three of them divide | | | | Yeshua the Messiah, the Lord God of Israel manifest |
| our praise up equally? (Is. 42:8) Does the "three of | | | | in human flesh? If this were to be the criteria for |
| them" even sound Biblical? | | | | Judgment, it would be a bad day for many! How long |
| Though correct for leading the Reformation | | | | waiver ye between these two opinions? |
| Movement, Martin Luther had been deceived for | | | | IF the God of Israel were three persons, then |
| years on 95 or more points of Roman Catholic | | | | everywhere in the Bible you read the word "God" |
| teaching. The trinity was not a subject of concern to | | | | would have to mean the three persons forming one |
| him. As it turns out, the trinity was the 96th point | | | | God. You will soon find that this does not fit the |
| that Martin Luther did not include in his thesis nailed to | | | | Scriptures, nor the context, nor the meanings of the |
| the church door. | | | | verses. The unbiblical doctrine of the trinity is a |
| Let's not forget John Calvin and Michael Servetus. | | | | contradiction to God's Word! |
| Servetus was killed at the stake Oct. 27, 1553 in | | | | Yes, you can understand this deep mysterious |
| Switzerland for the crime of believing in One God and | | | | unbiblical subject. It isn't true! Do you think after |
| not in the trinity. Calvin believed in the trinity, but | | | | thousands of years God might have mentioned it, if it |
| throughout his life he regularly denied the Hebrew Old | | | | were true? |